1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,640 I'm calling for the UFO reporting center in Seattle, Washington. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:12,160 We understand that a state trooper attached to your office had a UFO experience one or 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,160 two nights ago. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,360 Could you give us any information on that? 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,800 I can't give you any information. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,040 It wasn't during my shift. 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,080 I had a call from San Francisco, but he hasn't been in our area tonight. 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,400 He's been in Cut Bank, which is forty-some miles away. 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,400 What was his name? 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Allen. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,600 And he is working in the Cut Bank area? 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,000 Yeah, he's stationed on a con man. 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,400 He lives right here in town. 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,400 Oh, I see. 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,400 But he went to Cut Bank. 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:53,040 His sergeant is in Cut Bank and they had some kind of a...they were up there this evening. 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,040 I know. 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,440 I haven't heard from him since about eight o'clock this evening. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,960 Okay, well, did his experience take place in the Cut Bank area? 20 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:00,960 No, in Conradale. 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:01,960 In Conradale. 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,960 Yeah. 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,960 Will you be seeing him or hearing from him this evening? 24 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:07,960 Well, he works till midnight. 25 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:14,960 He should be going home before I go off shift, but I can't tell him that either. 26 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:18,640 Okay, could you pass a message on if you do see him? 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,480 Ask him to call the UFO reporting center in Seattle. 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,560 We'd like to hear about his experience. 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,080 Do you people have us listed there? 30 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,580 I don't believe so. 31 00:01:28,580 --> 00:01:30,080 I know we sent literature to your office. 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,080 I don't know whether it got down to the dispatcher or not. 33 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,080 I don't think it got to the dispatcher. 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:44,760 You know, it got to the point where so many people are afraid to report these things, 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,760 you know. 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,760 Well, this... 37 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,560 We've had others that have reported it to us two nights after that. 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,560 I had a couple of parties reported to me. 39 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:00,360 Well, if you hear of anything, I mean, if calls come in to you direct, would you consider 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,560 referring the people to us or would that be beyond policy? 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,560 No, no, if they would call you. 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,560 That's the UFO center. 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,560 The UFO reporting center, yes. 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Yep. 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,560 I'll put the note up. 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Thank you very much. 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Okay. 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Bye. 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,560 I have a little experience on October 9th while I'm patrolled. 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Yeah. 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,560 I wonder if we could get a description of just exactly what you saw. 52 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:36,560 Well, yeah, a round white light, fairly large size. 53 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,560 I really don't know how large because I don't know how close I was to it to tell you the truth. 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,560 You know, exactly. 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Yes. 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:50,560 It appeared to possibly have a red light, a real small red light on each side of it. 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:58,560 But I, you know, I couldn't tell whether it was the infection from the white light or whether, 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,560 you know, it really was a red one. 59 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,560 But it appeared to have a red light on each side now, whether we just couldn't see all 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,560 of it or whether it was just a faint blow running all the way around it or something. 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,560 I really don't know. 62 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,560 Well, now, just starting right from the beginning, how did you happen to see this? 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:25,560 Well, I was coming back from Dupuyo, which is just about straight west of Conrad, about 25 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,560 miles, about old 89. 65 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:34,560 And I was coming down and I had a truck accident that held me up out there to about, well, 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,560 about four in the morning. 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,560 Anyway, I was starting back. 68 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Matter of fact, I was just south of the truck accident, which was three miles south of Dupuyo. 69 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:53,560 And I spotted this light off to my, well, to the east of me, to my left as I was coming 70 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,560 south. 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:01,560 And I really paid too much attention to it at first, but I got to look at it and I thought, 72 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:07,560 you know, it's kind of funny at four o'clock in the morning, if anybody looks like a possibility 73 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,560 of a helicopter. 74 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Then I got to thinking, well, we've had a bunch of these cattle mutilations around here, you 75 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,560 know, while they've had them all over the country, I guess. 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:23,560 I thought, aha, just what I'm looking for, I'll just kind of follow them and see what 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,560 he's doing, you know, thinking at the time that it was a helicopter. 78 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:34,560 And so I followed it down 89 until I got to the Pendry Road, which is secondary 219. 79 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,560 It turns and goes east and then I followed it east. 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,560 It was out ahead of me, though. 81 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,560 But when I did turn onto the Pendry Road, it did cross over the Pendry Road. 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,560 And then it was to the south of the Pendry Road. 83 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,560 And I followed it down until I got right into Conrad here, which is where I live. 84 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,560 And then I followed it. 85 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,560 I went back then south on old 91 Middle Ways. 86 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:08,560 Then when I got up by the interstate, interstate 15, where the Midway Road crosses over the 87 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,560 Ways, it looked like I was getting pretty close to it. 88 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,560 So I thought, well, I'll head out that way a little way. 89 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,560 So I went out about a mile and a half, two miles. 90 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,560 And it stopped. 91 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,560 I was traveling about the same speed as whatever I was traveling. 92 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Yes. 93 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:32,560 And it stopped and I thought, well, I'll get just a little bit closer because I was interested 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,560 to hear what the sound was. 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,560 You know, a helicopter, you can usually hear it quite a ways away and it was pretty calm. 96 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,560 I followed a little bit closer. 97 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:47,560 And then when I stopped, I was going to jump out and see if I could hear anything. 98 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Well, before it gets, just got stopped before I get out. 99 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,560 The thing, it didn't turn around or anything. 100 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,560 You know, it was just sitting there. 101 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,560 And it dropped in elevation about three times and just was really coming towards me. 102 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,560 It's really weird. 103 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:09,560 And then I watched it, you know, at the time when it started to make the move because I was kind of surprised. 104 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:16,560 When I was looking for that, you know, some change in the light, you know, like a helicopter makes a turn around. 105 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,560 Yes. 106 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,560 And it never did make any. 107 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,560 It just sat there and then when it came and just shot right straight towards me and dropped in elevation, 108 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:31,560 that I saw three times and it was like, turn around and I went back to the interstate, which is only two miles. 109 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,560 And this friend of mine was watching it too. 110 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:44,560 And he felt the same thing and just dropped in that thousand two real fast and came right towards me. 111 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,560 Was there any change in the color while it was doing that? 112 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,560 No. It stayed exactly the same. 113 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,560 At least, you know, of course, you get a little bit excited, you know, and I know that I'm sure that it didn't change though. 114 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Yes. 115 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:05,560 And as far as the red, I can't recall whether I saw the red at that point or not, you know, when it was coming down towards me. 116 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,560 But the white light stayed, you know, just about exactly the same. 117 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,560 I never noticed any change on it at all. 118 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:18,560 But the last, it must have dropped down to about 500 feet was probably about as low as it got. 119 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,560 I'm just guessing that too because I don't know how big the light was. 120 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,560 Yes. 121 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,560 But when I stopped, the interstate hit stop. 122 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,560 And it appeared to be just about over the spot where I had stopped. 123 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,560 And that was as close as we ever got to it. 124 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:40,560 As soon as the other fellow came up with the other car then, it just, you know, just act like it didn't want anything to do with it. 125 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,560 It raised an elevation, went way up, and then it went east. 126 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,560 I see. 127 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,560 And then it went way, way up. 128 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,560 It stayed up, and it just went up, and it just stayed there. 129 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,560 And it just went up to the point where it just stayed in a stationary position whether it was moving or not. 130 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,560 It couldn't really detect any movement. 131 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Well, now, do you have any estimate regarding the closest distance that it got to you? 132 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,560 I would say my estimate was about two miles. 133 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,560 Uh-huh. 134 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,560 And you never did pick up any sound? 135 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,560 No noise. 136 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,560 A lot. 137 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,560 When I got back to the interstate, you know, I got out and I listened. 138 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Because now it's, it couldn't have been over two miles at that point, or at least appeared not to be any part of the night. 139 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,560 And I couldn't hear a thing. 140 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,560 I mean, it was just dead still. 141 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,560 Did you have any problem with your radio at the time? 142 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,560 No. 143 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,560 Nothing whatsoever. 144 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,560 No problem with the lights or anything else. 145 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:33,560 Okay. 146 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:36,560 And this, when you first spotted it, it was in the eastern sky. 147 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:40,560 And what part of the sky was it in the last time you saw it? 148 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:41,560 That's the last. 149 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:42,560 Right. 150 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:43,560 Oh boy. 151 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:46,560 Well, it was pretty high. 152 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:52,560 But it would have been, uh, southeast of Conrad. 153 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:57,560 And I would say that it was about a home colony. 154 00:08:57,560 --> 00:08:58,560 Let's see. 155 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:02,560 Let's take a look out here and see. 156 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:06,560 Must have been about a fourth of the way up on this guy. 157 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:07,560 Can I see? 158 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:08,560 Maybe not quite that far. 159 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:10,560 How was the weather conditions that night? 160 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:12,560 It was, uh, clear. 161 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,560 There was no moon. 162 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:15,560 Uh-huh. 163 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:16,560 It was real dark. 164 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:20,560 And that, I, you know, if there had been a moon, there would have been a possibility maybe seeing some shape or something. 165 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:25,560 But, uh, I don't think there was with stars out in the, it was just black, you know. 166 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:27,560 It was just a plain old dark light. 167 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:28,560 Yes. 168 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:33,560 And, uh, I kept trying to see if I could see anything, you know, but it just couldn't open me. 169 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:37,560 I had spotted one one time before, uh, in 67. 170 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:38,560 Oh yes. 171 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:41,560 Just west of Cuttbank about three miles. 172 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:46,560 And, uh, that one had three lights on it, three big lights. 173 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:49,560 And if I recall, one of those was clear. 174 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:50,560 I see. 175 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:51,560 One was red and one was maybe green. 176 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:54,560 I'd spent quite a long time going down there. 177 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:57,560 And that thing sat almost directly over me on the road. 178 00:09:57,560 --> 00:09:58,560 And I stopped. 179 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:01,560 And, uh, to this day, I don't know what it was. 180 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:03,560 There was absolutely no noise whatsoever with that one. 181 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:04,560 Uh-huh. 182 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:05,560 It was really strange. 183 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:09,560 Well, now this one that you saw on the night, so how long would you say you observed that? 184 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:13,560 I observed it from about four o'clock until about 6.30. 185 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:17,560 And at all times this thing was traveling in various directions in a period of time. 186 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:20,560 Yeah, it was raised and lower, you know, in elevation. 187 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:31,560 And now from about, oh, let's see, from about five, let me think now, yeah, about five on, 188 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:33,560 it didn't appear to do anything. 189 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:35,560 You know, it just went up and it just sat there. 190 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:39,560 It was just, well, like a star, you know. 191 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:40,560 Yeah, it was a point. 192 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:41,560 A lot brighter than a star. 193 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:42,560 Well, you watched it from the freeway. 194 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:43,560 Yeah. 195 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:44,560 Right, okay. 196 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:48,560 Now, did this, when you were following the object, did it at any time pass across the 197 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:49,560 highway in front of you? 198 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:52,560 Um, at any time in the road. 199 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:56,560 Yeah, but it was a long ways ahead of me at that point, you know, where Kenroy wrote. 200 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:57,560 Yes. 201 00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:00,560 Now, it had been, you know, it was, well, it was quite a ways ahead of me. 202 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:04,560 But there was no question in your mind, in fact, that this thing was moving and maneuvering. 203 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:06,560 Oh, right, no, there's no doubt. 204 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:07,560 Okay. 205 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:12,560 So, one of the ways this one was, I thought, 67. 206 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:15,560 Now, it, I drove right up underneath it, almost. 207 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:17,560 I didn't figure it was over 300 feet. 208 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:23,560 It was the lights on the bottom were illuminating enough light that you could see the aluminum, 209 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:25,560 whatever, you know, aluminum colored. 210 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:26,560 The shoe solace? 211 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:27,560 Yeah. 212 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:31,560 But I couldn't make out any shape on it, rather than the fact that the lights were in the triangle. 213 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:32,560 I see. 214 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:35,560 And they were big lights, a lot bigger lights than any aircrafts. 215 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:41,560 And it just sat there and then it took off real slow, probably doing only about 30, 35 216 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:42,560 miles an hour. 217 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:43,560 Yes. 218 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:46,560 And then I went to the rest of the direction from Kent Bank there. 219 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:49,560 And I kept watching it and watching it. 220 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:52,560 And I think just all of a sudden it just took off. 221 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:53,560 I mean, it was really cool. 222 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:56,560 Those lights just went right down to just, it was off. 223 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:57,560 Yes. 224 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:59,560 Well, now this is the last one that you saw. 225 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:01,560 Did it have any given shape of any kind? 226 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:03,560 Just the light is always. 227 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:04,560 Just a bright light. 228 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:06,560 A round, appeared to be round anyway. 229 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:09,560 And it appeared to be on the bottom of something. 230 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:10,560 You know what I mean? 231 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:11,560 Yes. 232 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:13,560 It was on the side where it was shining right in your eyes. 233 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:15,560 It was on the bottom, but it was pretty intense. 234 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:18,560 But you couldn't make out any silhouette of it, Hulk of any kind? 235 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:19,560 Nothing. 236 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:20,560 Okay. 237 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:24,560 And there were other people who saw this? 238 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:27,560 Yeah, there was two other people who saw this. 239 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:28,560 I see. 240 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:31,560 There was several other sightings. 241 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:35,560 As a matter of fact, some lady from up around Browning had her. 242 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:37,560 Car lights and everything go out, I guess. 243 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:39,560 The thing was hovering right over. 244 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:40,560 This was recently? 245 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:41,560 Yeah. 246 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:43,560 From up around Browning. 247 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:48,560 That's what I was trying to think. 248 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:49,560 You know what I mean? 249 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:50,560 I don't know. 250 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:52,560 Yeah, I tried. 251 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:56,560 Maybe they didn't give her a first name or something, but I know that. 252 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:59,560 That was not just shortly after I had mine. 253 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:00,560 I see. 254 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,560 And of course there's been several other sightings. 255 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:06,560 Yeah, KSCN radio and Shelby would know. 256 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:08,560 KSCN. 257 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:10,560 Once it carries the news story. 258 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:11,560 KSCM? 259 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:12,560 Yeah. 260 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:13,560 And Shelby? 261 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:14,560 Okay. 262 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:17,560 Also, we sure appreciate your time. 263 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:18,560 I was going to give you a call. 264 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:19,560 It's kind of my fault too. 265 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:21,560 And I'd ever got around to it there. 266 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:26,560 I should have given you a buzz because you left a phone number for me to call or somebody did anyway. 267 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:27,560 Right. 268 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:31,560 Well, we sure appreciate hearing from you and if anything else should happen in your area. 269 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:32,560 Okay. 270 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,560 We'll try to keep in touch with you. 271 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:35,560 Thank you very much. 272 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:37,560 It's worth everything since then. 273 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:38,560 Okay. 274 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:39,560 Thank you. 275 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:40,560 You bet. 276 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:41,560 Bye.